Curse

tomcruisejr · Jun 11, 2006, 08:31 AM // 08:31

Hammer Mastery 16
Strength 9
Tactics 11

Weapon: Zealous Hammer of Defense/Fortitude

Skills

"Coward"
Crushing Blow
Hammer Bash
Irresistible Blow
Healing Signet
"To The Limit"
Sprint
Ressurection Signet

How To's:

Use "Coward" when target is kiting then follow it up with Crushing Blow. Hammer Bash then Irresistible Blow. Dual KDs

. To gain adrenaline on the fly, use "to the limit".

on pressure mode, use Irresistible Blow.

"Coward" can be also use as a defense. When running away from an attacker, highlight it and use "Coward" and itll be knocked down.

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Aussie AJMW · Jun 11, 2006, 01:02 PM // 13:02

could get a nice combo out of that. id try out a few alternate skills and try improve on it but still good thinkn

sno · Jun 11, 2006, 02:33 PM // 14:33

Heal sig in TA is fairly useless, I'd switch it out for frenzy.

audioaxes · Jun 11, 2006, 09:34 PM // 21:34

coward seems kinda blah when your a hammer warrior with devastating and backbreaker at your disposal

ShadowsRequiem · Jun 11, 2006, 11:23 PM // 23:23

backbreaker and dev hammer are adren skills, correct me if i'm wrong but coward is a energy skill which can easily be used on the fly, thats why you would have it instead of those elites you listed.

NatalieD · Jun 12, 2006, 12:24 AM // 00:24

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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem

backbreaker and dev hammer are adren skills, correct me if i'm wrong but coward is a energy skill which can easily be used on the fly, thats why you would have it instead of those elites you listed.

Nope, Coward! is also adrenal.

I'm inclined to agree with audioaxes... I don't see the benefit of using Coward! over Devastating Hammer or Backbreaker for a hammer warrior. It seems more appropriate as an elite for a sword warrior.

Despondency · Jun 12, 2006, 12:37 AM // 00:37

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Originally Posted by NatalieD

Nope, Coward! is also adrenal.

I'm inclined to agree with audioaxes... I don't see the benefit of using Coward! over Devastating Hammer or Backbreaker for a hammer warrior. It seems more appropriate as an elite for a sword warrior.

Yeah, I've been fooling around with it on a sword warrior for awhile, and I really like it.

tomcruisejr · Jun 12, 2006, 09:48 PM // 21:48

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Originally Posted by NatalieD

Nope, Coward! is also adrenal.

I'm inclined to agree with audioaxes... I don't see the benefit of using Coward! over Devastating Hammer or Backbreaker for a hammer warrior. It seems more appropriate as an elite for a sword warrior.

the only advantage of "Coward" over Backbreaker, Devastating Hammer, Hammer bash. bullstrike, etc or even shock or shove is that you can kd distanced kiting targets (moving). latter skills need in your face contact whilst coward is ranged like "Gale", but not like gale.to add, this kd skill is "immuned" to blinds/evades/blocks

yea its adrenal and yes its good on a sword warrior coz elite skills of sword are not always the best skills for them to use.

to the limit can be replaced with frenzy.

audioaxes · Jun 13, 2006, 10:34 PM // 22:34

they should change the qualifying condition to "moving" instead of "fleeing"

Mysterial · Jun 14, 2006, 05:02 PM // 17:02

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Originally Posted by audioaxes

they should change the qualifying condition to "moving" instead of "fleeing"

I'm pretty sure it is actually "moving"; I've yet to have it fail on a moving foe.

suiraCLAW · Jun 14, 2006, 05:49 PM // 17:49

I found coward a great skill on a sin (in gvg, to support a flag runner) but I can't see the advantage of it on a hammer war (like some other people mentioned).

BTW: the reason why coward is adrenal is because if it wasn't casters may use it (why would somebody ever take ice trident, weaken knees or pounce if you can use a INSTANT skill)

Corinthian · Jun 14, 2006, 06:04 PM // 18:04

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Originally Posted by suiraCLAW

I found coward a great skill on a sin (in gvg, to support a flag runner) but I can't see the advantage of it on a hammer war (like some other people mentioned).

BTW: the reason why coward is adrenal is because if it wasn't casters may use it (why would somebody ever take ice trident, weaken knees or pounce if you can use a INSTANT skill)

They can still wand around to get adrenaline.

fb2000 · Jun 14, 2006, 11:39 PM // 23:39

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Originally Posted by suiraCLAW

BTW: the reason why coward is adrenal is because if it wasn't casters may use it (why would somebody ever take ice trident, weaken knees or pounce if you can use a INSTANT skill)

why wouldnt you use something less conditional like Gale or similar? also free up ur elite slot..

and the description is wrong, you seem to knock down whenever the target is moving, or at least so Ive seen whilst bashing some Master on the isle of nameless

no1 승리를 위해 · Jun 17, 2006, 12:52 PM // 12:52

ah, coward will knock down foe if you are running away.. i will try this build

suiraCLAW · Jun 17, 2006, 05:46 PM // 17:46

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They can still wand around to get adrenaline.

Yes, but it's less effective then just paying the energy.

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why wouldnt you use something less conditional like Gale or similar?

Because:
-Gale causes exhaustion
-coward is instant

fb2000 · Jun 17, 2006, 06:06 PM // 18:06

my point is, knockdowns are very useful for interrupting the enemies action, not just for snaring. the "fleeing" part in coward really reduces its usefulness (at least to me), as you can only knockdown moving targets

you dont move when you use rez signet

dont take this as flaming, i love reading about new builds and stuff, not just relying on the tried and tested ones